Today, I’m speaking with Self-Love Coach, Yetti Ajayi-Obe – one of my clients from Show Up Real. Yetti is such an example of using your story to help people and create community. Yetti shares her story on starting her blog and how she built a community and business around her blog. Now, she is a coach, sells affirmation decks (which are selling out), and expanding her impact. 

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Summary Transcript:

 Hello. Welcome back to show up real podcast. I hope you are having a good week y’all.

Doors are still open to show up real and today I’m talking to one of my clients who is inside of Show up real and I’m so excited So I am talking to Yetti Yetti is a self love and mindset coach committed to helping black and brown communities heal by prioritizing self acceptance inner work and mental well being through her coaching, writing, and affirmation decks, which she sells.

She provides tools to dismantle self doubt. unlearn harmful narratives and cultivate a mindset rooted in self worth.

Yetti is passionate about de stigmatizing mental health and creating spaces where healing is both accessible and celebrated. And her story will tell you this.

Today on the podcast, we’re going through, I have a ton of questions for her, some regarding content, some not, but I really wanted to know her story because she has such a great story and you’ll see why this is her work, which I just, I just love her work is centered on guiding others towards self awareness, resilience, and lasting transformation. And if you check out her content, which you absolutely should, her info will be below.

Her content is so good. She is so wise. Her content, I don’t know, her content is just so good. So on today’s episode, we are talking about one, why she joined show up real because she is actually a person who joined show up real. With quite a bit of experience with content.

So I wanted to give you some perspective on why she joined and what kind of results she’s gotten. And I also wanted to share her story. So you guys could see the type, not only the type of people that are in this group, but I want to share her story because her story is. It’s so powerful and I think so many of us can, can relate to it.

So y’all are going to love it. Okay. Let’s get into it. Yetti. Welcome to the podcast. I’m so excited. I really am so excited to talk to you one on one to pick your brain, to talk about self love. I think this is the topic that I don’t even know if we’ve ever touched on this on the podcast and I think it’s a topic that I, I need to, I need to like, I need to like put my energy into a little bit more, um, which I’m sure we’ll get into.

Um, so I’m so, so excited about it and excited to talk to you.

So welcome to the podcast. Thank you. Thank you. I’m so excited. I am so pumped. Okay. Let’s get right into it. I told, I gave folks a little bit of your intro in the intro of the podcast, but why don’t you tell us, um, why don’t you give us a little bit of it, right?

So tell us a little bit about who you are, what you do, just like a quick little gist of what you do. And, um. And how that led to self love, like what you do and then how, how to get started. Okay. So I am a self love and mindset coach.

Um, I really zone in on helping black and brown women feel rooted within themselves. So that they can ignore the noise that’s going on around them that has them questioning every little thing that they do Every little thing about their existence, you know, because everything about us is purposeful and true And how did I get here?

Um, I got here through my own personal struggles with anxiety and depression and Also recently just in covering all these things in therapy the last couple of years It’s from Migrating from England to America, um, a lot of my core limiting beliefs, um, were planted in that transition, um, as a young black African girl with a strange name, cornrows, and a British accent, moving to Marlborough, Massachusetts, one of the whitest towns in Massachusetts, um, and not seeing people that look like her.

And it being very known for the first time in my life that I was different. Okay, let’s start there. Um, I have questions. So, why don’t we get started with, why don’t you tell us a little bit about the back story? So like, where are you from? Where are you from? Where is your family from? Um, and then tell us a little bit about Your all of it.

Like, tell us a little bit deeper about like anxiety and depression, how you started noticing that when that really became a thing right in your life. And then also your transition from England to America.

How did that contribute to it? I’m sure a lot, right? So tell us that like, just tell us a little bit deeper. I want to know. I want to personally know more. Of course, of course. Um, so when I was 9, 10, um, my father, who is an engineer, um, he took a job in America, um, and just like background, I am Nigerian, full Nigerian, both Paris Nigerian, um, born in England, um, I don’t speak it, but I can understand.

But I do come from a traditional Nigerian household. Um, My dad moved to America. We follow suit about like a year or so later. And, I grew up with Africans, Jamaicans, a plethora, different variety of black people. Um, moved to America. And I was the only white person in my class.

I was one of four black students in the entire school. And the dynamics in my household had changed. So I was a daddy’s girl up until he moved. And I now understand, I understand it now, looking back at it. You know, you move to a different country. Your salary isn’t quite what you think it’s going to be.

My father was taking care of a family of four, I think on maybe 30 something thousand dollars. So he, our dynamic changed. He just wasn’t my father anymore. And so it just led to this thing like my dad doesn’t like me anymore. I need to do things to make him like me.

And while that thing, while that is taking place at home, I’m also at school being constantly reminded by teachers and students, you know, that I sound funny. I say words differently. Um, I got my first like failing grade because I added U to favorites. I still do this to this day, but apparently there’s no U in favorites in the U. S. A just. It was just like a, it was a traumatic experience.

It just, I, I moved from a place where I felt love in abundance to a place where I felt like I had to shrink and make myself invisible so people would leave me alone, like, do not pick on me. Wow. Um, I would stand if I spoke, you’re showing off your accent, and if I didn’t speak, oh she’s too good to speak.

It just like, and it’s really hard to navigate that, you know, as someone in elementary school. From there, I Developed coping mechanisms. One of them being harming myself.

Um, I was a self mutilator up until six years ago. And it started with like pinching, scratching, and then it elevated to cutting. Um, I didn’t think anything of it.

We eventually moved towns to a more diverse town. I go to a more diverse school, still predominantly white. Um, and I’m starting to notice things in my peers that, like, they don’t worry about that I do. I had an inability to go places by myself, um, because I thought people were staring at me and they, I just thought I was walking around with this label that says, she’s different.

She’s not from here. And so I thought if I, if I just kept to myself or go places in large groups that no one would see me. Um, and then eventually as the feelings got heavier and I’m dealing with more stressors and of course Nigerian background children are to be seen and not heard, um, mental illness doesn’t exist, well, didn’t exist back then in most immigrant households, it’s a westernized thing, my father, it’s for white people, it’s not, it’s not for us, um, um.

That’s when I realized that I suffer from depression, um, because I did try to take my life when I was 16 years old. Fast forward, life is lifing as it typically does, um, and shortly after graduating college I received the diagnosis of of, of, um, anxiety, which I just thought I used to call them little freak outs. I didn’t know why my heart would get so elevated. I didn’t know why like certain things would make me panic.

My friends didn’t have the same overthinking that I would like after every decision, every interaction with somebody, I am overthinking, I’m replaying it in my head. My best friend, we have the complete opposite. It’s like, this is her world and we literally just live in it.

She does not care and watching her operate like that through college, it made me realize like, Hey, like there’s, there’s something going on here. And so speaking to, yeah, there’s something else and speaking to a doctor, um, they were just like, have you heard of generalized anxiety disorder?

I was like, no, I have not. Um. And you’re like, no, I am, my parents are immigrants and we’re black. And like, that’s just not 100%. You suck it up. You, you save face and you do what you have to do. Like that’s just how it was raised.

Um, and from there, honestly, just like it turned into a journey. Um, I blogged all throughout high school about my mental health and like the way that I felt. I kept a tally. On the internet. Wow. Yetti. Um, as like a 14, 15, 16 year old girl of how many times I would be cutting myself. And then eventually I turned my blog public and I told the world like,

Hey, I’m a self mutilator. I am trying to stop. Join me on this journey as I do so. Um. And I remember that day vividly because I was awake at 2 a. m. in the morning googling how to like yourself, how to not panic, um, how to feel okay, how to be like everybody else and like they have all these websites and clinics and programs for, you know, alcohol anonymous, um, weight loss camps, there’s no self love camp.

You know, that there’s no instructions of like how to adult and how to like yourself. And so I basically sought out through blogging to be that resource from blogging. I moved into coaching and that’s how we got here. Wow. Thank you so much for sharing your story. That is such an incredible story. Um, I relate to it so much when I, you know, I don’t know.

So in, in middle school, I think it was for me. Um, that’s when I really started. I remember I had, there was a moment in middle school where I actually self mutilated. I never even used that word. I didn’t know. I just knew, like, I just started cutting myself. I don’t know. Like it was just for me at that time. I don’t know. There was obviously something I was seeking, but at that time I just remember being in a deep, deep, deep depression, I guess I must have, um, and just really hating myself.

That’s what I remember. I remember hating the way I looked. I remember hating, um, I mean, I don’t know how to say it except just hating myself. Like I hated everything about myself. Yes. Now, I categorize that time in my life as like the worst time in my life.

Because it was just a time where I was just incredibly mean. Um, and Luckily, it didn’t, like, last that long, but I will say this, it was that time in my life, um, I honestly, what saved me was my relationship with God, um, because after that I started going, I don’t even know how I kind of got out of it, but I just know that, like, God helped me through it, and I think my relationship got stronger with God, and I think now, as an adult, and even, you know, as I grew up, my I feel so fortunate from, uh, I feel so fortunate that I have a very good relationship with God because I grew up in a Christian church where a lot of people had, who grew up in, in some, a lot of different religions.

Um, they had bad experiences with it for, for a lot of good, like, you know, solid reasons. And I never. experience. I don’t know if it’s that I never experienced it or that I was so thankful that God got me through that time that it’s like tunnel vision because I feel like he saved me and I’ve never, ever talked about this by the way.

So I love that you’re, you’re, I, I, I’m so grateful that you’re sharing. this story because it made me realize like that was the moment. I think that was for me when it clicked that God is real because he saved me. So like, and I’ve taken that for the rest of my life. I’m like, Oh no, no, no, no. Like God moves mountains. He’s moved it in me. Um, but I remember the pain and a lot of people don’t know this about me because I’m very forwardly confident.

Like, like I come off, I’m an extrovert and I love talking to people and it feeds me. Like I love being in with people. So I come off extremely confident. I come off like whatever, but I’m also, I mean, if you were to ask my husband, I’m like so insecure, like Deeply insecure still now. I like still work on it. I’m deeply, deeply insecure. about a lot of different little things.

Um, so I love what you talk about and I don’t think it’s still not talked about enough. Um, there is so many weight, like there’s so many, especially now there’s so many avenues for personal growth, but like self love still feels kind of down. Like even now, even now, like we talk about all these things, right? Like there’s so much that folks are talking about.

Um, but I still think that true. Self love, like love, self like, you know, that is just not talked about enough. And I’m just so thankful. I’m so thankful. Like what a blessing you are, Yadi. Like what a blessing you are to share your story that you don’t even have to share.

You know, you didn’t have to share it and go public with it. And. I am sure that there are so many people that you have helped who, who have never ever, ever reached out to you and you know nothing about, but they know you and they’re grateful for you. Do not make me cry. I know. I just, I’m about to cry. Um, it’s just a beautiful thing.

It’s a beautiful thing that you are so willing to be open about it. Why am I, now I’m going to cry. I don’t know. Um, because it’s so important. Tell me what gave you the courage to tell your story? Cause you were young, right? Like when you, when you went public with it, but also to continue the journey, like to continue telling the story and to continue.

The work, right? It’s, I mean, it’s, it’s also continued literal healing, right? And continued literal work. How has that, like, what has given you the courage to continue coming back to this and know that like, no, this is the right thing. Like, this is the right thing for me to share.

Um, okay. So what gave me the courage? Honestly, um, I had recently graduated and again, coming from a Nigerian household, I’ve done everything that I was told to do. So, I didn’t choose to be an engineer. I was told I need to do something in math, science, and engineering, or I’m going to be poor, and I can’t come back home if I am poor.

Um, and, I’m now graduated, done everything I need to do, like, went to school, got the good grades, got the job I make amazing money. I’m still miserable. I’m still sad. I don’t know what the next steps are. Is it supposed to be marriage? Like, climb corporate? Like, none of this feels good to me, and I’m watching my peers.

They’re loving adulthood, and I’m like, adulthood effing sucks! It’s lonely! It’s lonely! And, um, just, again, I was on the internet, and I was looking, and I was looking for people who felt like me. This is back when Tumblr. Used to still be a thing.

Um, I don’t know if Tumblr is still around, but yes, and I saw a couple people that they were white. Um, and they freely spoke about it, and then people were asking questions, but not in a mean way, in like a caring way, and I’m just like, how come we don’t do that? You know? How come there’s no black and brown people doing this?

And so, I got on my blog, I put up a post, I said, hey, you know, I’ve been trying to stop cutting for the last five years, um, hoping that I could be the relief that I felt when I finally came across somebody on Tumblr. And what kept me going was a random person who found me, who found the blog post maybe two days later and said, me too. Like, me too. I’ve been trying to stop for a really long time.

Can, can we, can we do it together? And, my blog was linked to Twitter. And so, my friends and family, well, not my family, um, but most of my friends, like college friends, they saw it. Um, those who lived with me in college, they knew.

They knew. Um, my best friend picked on it, picked up on it, I think my freshman, my freshman year. Sophomore year? When we moved in together, when I was having dad moments, her and my other friend at that time, they would hide sharp objects in the house. Like, there’s nothing in there for me to do stuff. And yeah, I just, I kept going with it.

Trying to figure it out for myself because I knew I cut myself again, cuz I just didn’t like myself. I was very disappointed in myself. That’s when I would usually would Go ham. It’s just like something out of my control, but I have now pinned the blame to me.

I have to punish myself And so yeah everyone’s feedback that’s what it was Well keeping you going exactly and then the more I shared the more I realized That this you know, there isn’t a lot of people talking about it But the relief that people felt, like the emails that came pouring in, like hey, I do this too, I don’t know why, or hey, I’m in therapy, I’m going through it now, my therapist says ask yourself these questions before you do it, so it literally became like us sharing details, me doing trial and error, you know, in the open, like this worked for me, this didn’t work for me, like you try it.

So yeah, it turned into a nice little community. Wow. That is, that is amazing and so, so, so valuable to be able to find people and for people to find you, um, who, who could lean on each other, even if you didn’t know, know each other really, but just to.

Just to know that you’re not alone. So how, as a person who has anxiety, I don’t know if you, I imagine you still have anxiety from time to time. I mean, I do, um, as a person who, you know this about yourself, right? Like, you know how. far your brain can go. Right. Like, I think that is something, I don’t think everyone can relate to that, but like, I could totally understand.

Like you, you know, yourself enough, you have enough self awareness to know how far your brain can go. How have you been able to like do so much? I mean, let’s just talk about, we did this on a coaching call once where we broke down like everything. And this was just from a business side of things. But we, we broke down like every offer you have, every product you have, right? Like everything you kind of hand your hand in.

And it was so much like you had a nine to five and then you do coaching like you actually coach clients like one on one and then you have your what is it called? Black man affirmed. Yeah, I have the affirmation cards. Yeah. Yeah, the affirmation cards, but you have multiple so you have black man affirmed and then you have a girl affirmed black black girl affirmed.

Um, I have another I have with love Yetti, which is affirmations and journal prompts kind of paired together. And then I have one that’s been sold out for a little while, but I was just like, I can’t I can’t stop getting more cards. Yeah. Yeah. And then you have, hold on, you have these, you have coaching, you have a nine to five and I just had a, I, there was something else, customized affirmation decks.

Oh yeah, the custom ones. You create custom ones for like weddings and like people who, you know, custom, custom decks. How have you, how do you manage this? I don’t know how to say it any more simply, but like how the heck do you manage it? And um, how do you manage this while also Being a human who has bad days, who has bad weeks, who is aware of your, of, of, who’s very self aware of like, what, what your mind can, can say and do to you.

Like, how do you manage to be so productive in your life? And maybe productive is the wrong word, but like, how do you manage to do so much? with that. You’re like trauma.

You’re like, that’s how cat. That’s exactly. No, but, um, sometimes I do feel myself like channeling my father because my father is a man that has his hands in everything. Everyone knows him. It’s very annoying. Yeah, and he does, he does everything at the same time, but I mean, he’ll never admit that he has anxiety.

He does have anxiety. Um, But he just doesn’t, you know, it’s like you follow the plan, not the mood. Um, something, I’m going to be very honest here. Out of the four things, well the multitude of things, something always does end up suffering a little bit. Um, so I started off with the cards. Affirmations have been my jam since.

You know, I got on the internet and told everyone like, Hey, I got mental health stuff going on. Affirmations is what centered myself. It helped me to center myself and taught me to like the, the person that I am and consistently evolving into. Um, so the affirmation cards, they, they’re kind of baseline. So they’re always going to be there.

Um, coaching is probably one of the newest things. Um, and how, what keeps me balanced there is the fact that I have people who are depending on me. I have people who I would like to show up for the way that I needed someone to show up for me. Um, but with that, I, I’m very cautious on how many I take on because I am an anxious person.

Yeah, I’m a highly functioning anxious person. Yes, yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, you, you have to limit it. Like you got to limit it. I think a lot of people who, I mean, a lot of people I work with are just, you know, extremely high achievers. They are definitely like multi what is the word? What’s multi put multi passionate.

Um, but. They also care a lot about what they do and the people that it affects, like their work affects. And I think, and I’m similar where like, it feels like such a honor and like, like it’s just such an honor. You want to do right by people, like you want to do right by people who, who, who you work with.

So I totally, totally get that. Um. Let’s quickly talk. Like, I want to get a little bit into, um, content. Cause one thing we didn’t mention, that’s what I was going to add to this list. One thing we didn’t mention is like all, all your, like the content, like all the places you show up or have. Right. So your blog has been something that you’ve been doing for years, right?

For many years. Um, so you, do you still run that blog? No, I actually, that was the thing I chose to, I wouldn’t say sunset because she’s coming back. But, um, that was one thing that I decided to show up less for just because when you’re blogging and you’re a personal blogger, you’re blogging about your personal experiences.

The shit is draining. Yeah. Yeah. It’s a lot. It is a lot of work. And the internet is completely different from when I first started blogging. There are trolls now, you know, and they’re coming to attack like your personality and how you show up online. And I know me one. If I don’t clap back, which I most likely will, um, I’m gonna internalize it and then it’s gonna seep into everything else that I touch, which isn’t fair to me and isn’t fair to the people that I serve.

So I did take a step back there, but that’s actually what led me to you. Um, was, well, how did you find me, Camila? Okay. And then what made you even join? So, well, sorry to cut you off. Um, yeah, I would love to get into like, what made you even join because you are a person who you are very experienced with content.

You’ve been blogging with for a lot of years. If you guys go visit her, um, on, on. Instagram, you’ll see that like your content is so good. I’m pulling up your, your, I forget exactly. Oh, Yetti says that’s right. Yetti Y E T T I S A Y S. Right. Like if you go follow her, you’ll see like the quality of her content is so good.

You’re very experienced. Um, what, like what led you to my world? Because I can storytell. I can tell a story. I can talk about my life. Yeah, you are. I can move people, like emotions, all of that. I cannot sell to save my life. I cannot. That’s not true. I’m still working on it. I’m still working on it. But, um, again, I’m in a place now where I definitely still share, um, because I want more people to have those.

Moments where they can feel seen and heard through my story and then ultimately feel safe. Um Mm hmm, but it wasn’t translating to sales so promoting a blog post is very very different from promoting a service and when I came across I came across your IG and You had one of those like posts where it’s like, do you feel like this?

I’m Do you do this? I’m like, I sure do It’s like the list I was just like she’s talking to me like where are the cameras she’s watching me she sent straight from God and Then I you know due diligence stalk you for a little bit. I was like, I like her personality. Yeah, she’s funny And it sounds like you know, she’s gonna give me tough love Loving, loving, tough love, you know, there are some people that are just out here just stirring the pot.

And at that point, let’s fight. But, but it was just like, I knew that I would feel seen. I knew, I knew that it would be a safe container, um, because, you know, you are a Latino woman and I just feel safer in certain spaces, um, but you spoke directly to what I was lost in. Mm hmm. So yeah, so good. So tell me a little bit about what like growth you’ve had, what mindset shifts you’ve had in show up real and also in your business, like businesses, I should say, like what has shifted, what have been like the things that just have been your biggest growth like so far?

I mean, I guess it’s almost a year, but, um, how, how has that, how’s it been for you? First things first is you came for my perfectionism on day one. You sure did. Um, and. Wait, what do you mean? So I won’t post or share something unless it’s absolutely perfect. Unless, you know, it’s done with my pretty camera.

If the graphics are not graphing, if it’s not aesthetically pleasing, I am not going to post it, which means I will go weeks, months with no content. Um, and yeah, just going through the program, like not just our, our weekly calls, but going through the actual very thoughtful, very detailed, um, course that comes with show up real, you somehow gave me permission to show up as it’s, which has impacted business, but also impacted me, um, personally, because.

I feel like most, you know, black and brown women carry this, you know, we have to work 10 times as hard to get the same results. And so for me that was just like, okay, I gotta show up with beat face. I gotta be smiley. I gotta look like I am screaming self-love from the inside out. But mm-hmm . I’m, I’m, I’m not Elmo every day.

Do you know what I mean? I’m not, I don’t wake up smiling. Yeah. Every day. And. The program gave me permission, you know, to, that’s okay. How can you use that in your content? Like, how can you be real in your content? Like, I’m really not feeling it today. And maybe you’re not either. Maybe we can do some affirmations around it.

Um, I decided to put out the content that I wanted to see and what I wanted to feel at that moment versus The random formulas that we see from the 50 million different social media marketing experts that are on our IG pages. Um, so that was like the number one major thing. And it’s just, it’s just given me so much more freedom.

Um, like my eyebrows aren’t drawn in. Um, but you, but you get in these affirmations today. Yeah. Um, I love it. I lost quite a bit of followership too. Um, when I pivoted, I was mainly mental health and then I moved more into self love and self acceptance. And I lost quite a bit of followers there because, um, something that I used to touch upon a lot.

Um, there’s a thing called trauma porn. And so people, Get attached. Oh, yes to your traumatic stories and I

12 years ago. I was raped at a gym and When I finally shared that story the amount of followers and readers that I got I was like, okay, there’s other people that feel this way But then there was also people who were just tied to the traumatic and the sad stories I started to realize that the Satterpost always did better than me finding my joy and me having breakthroughs.

And over the years, I lost quite a bit of like, followership from that, but I now know that I’m building a tribe and a community that is here for the message, the good and the bad, you know, um, they’re more aligned. I’m so sorry. I didn’t know that. And I’m so sorry you went through that. That’s horrible. But I will say that watching you on your, on your socials now.

Um, share your joy is like contagious, like it really is contagious. Like I, I love it. I mean, I, I love it. And I feel it. I think you’re just, you’re so emotional, like for, you know, naturally that I feel like it, you know, you probably attract a lot of empaths, right. Um, because, because of that, and I very much am.

So like, it, it. 100 percent on what you said. Like, yeah, there’s definitely a thing online that got called trauma porn and just like, also, I mean, this isn’t you, but like, uh, one thing I tell some clients is like also the trauma dumping. It’s like the, the content you could share your story, but you don’t like, it doesn’t make, don’t make social media this place where you just dump all your bad energy either, because you will attract people.

Like you will, people will be attracted to that. Um, but yeah. those aren’t always the people that you want there. You know what I mean? Like you want people who are going to also share the joy with you and find it inspiring when you are celebrating and when you’re joyful and when there’s, you know, there’s beauty in your life, you know, that’s, that’s also what you want to celebrate.

So, right, exactly. So true. Exactly. Yeah. Uh, how, um, well, how are we on time? Okay. We’ve got 10 more minutes. Tell me what your goals are and I don’t mean to put you on the spot, but like, what do you want to happen with your business and content in the next? year, two years, three years. So my ultimate goal, we could, we could, we could have an open conversation about it too.

Um, ultimately I would like to have my formation cards in stores. I would like them to be wildly accessible, um, to anyone and everyone that needs it. Um, It sounds silly, but I’m thinking like, do you remember the book Chicken Noodle Soup for the Soul? Yes! And they had one for every little Oh my god, we need that.

We need your decks. So We do. That is, that is the ultimate goal for those decks. Um, and then also I would like to move into a space where it, I’m saying this out loud for the first time to like someone that’s not my bestie. It’s making me so nervous but excited. Um, like the coaching aspect that I do, I would like for that to move, like still be coaching, but I’d like for that to move into experiences, retreats, centers, residencies and, you know, different.

Spa locations, but not that, excuse my language, earthy crunchy shit, because what is mainstream self care now is massages, facials, you gotta be vegan, you have to do sunrise yoga. I’m not doing sunrise yoga, and I’m not giving up pork, so fight me. It needs to be, it needs to be realistic and sustainable self care experiences.

That is what I am hoping to move into. So, yeah. Yeah. That is amazing. I think you are the person to lead a whole freaking movement. And I honestly, I think you’re just getting started. I think there is more to There’s definitely more to come, but I just, I, it’s so needed. It’s so needed. I just created this.

Um, it’s so interesting. You said that about you’re like, not the crunchy shit. I was writing, I was recording yesterday. I was recording this post. It was actually for black history month. And I started. I was saying all the things that I’ve learned from black women and one of them was this sense of this sense of like almost like this sense of calmness which you like this calmness and healing because I think stereotypically it’s like you know been very whitewashed that like the the fucking girl with her hands like this like over there in the beach or like in the jungle or but like Like where I’ve learned so much of, I don’t even know how to honestly describe it, but I’ll just say it like this through music and through, I listened to a lot of neo soul and it’s like, I like, I grew up basically on Jill Scott and Erykah Badu and like their sense of, of calmness and their sense of, I just love them so much, but like, And, and there was also, I had a, um, there was a woman, um, who was, what is her, I was in this program when I was in high school and she was one of the, one of the leaders.

I don’t know what the proper role was, but she introduced me to Erykah Badu and Jill Scott as like a 14 year old and, um, 14, maybe 15, but. I just remember her energy was so, there was this authentic, authenticity she had and this like proud, like authenticity. And she was like loud, but then she also was like incredibly calm.

And um, I just learned so much about her. Um, I, I remember, and she introduced me to this music that I now still, you know, I love, I love it. And anyways. I was writing this post yesterday. I was, uh, recording this post yesterday and it made me think of that because I was like, that is what I think of when I think of like calm energy and healing and, and, and really creating space, um, to, to just feel like, to just feel and, and, and in my case through, through art, right?

And through music, music. But I think of black women because like I’ve never, I mean, personally, I’ve just, I mean, I haven’t put myself in those spaces either, but, um, that’s what I think of. And I think that space is just, there’s so much more room and we need you. Like we need. We need you out here talking about self love talk.

And by the way, she’s doing a whole self love month for the month of February. So make sure to go check her out. Um, so I’ll, I’ll ask everyone or I’ll ask you where people could find you in a second, but just know that like we so need you and there’s so much space for it. And there, there really is so many gaps.

In the market. Um, and there’s so much room for you to help people like for you to help people to feel less alone to actually like embrace themselves and learn to love themselves and learn to like themselves. And I just love the work you do. You’re amazing. It’s you’re you’re such a blessing to people to so many people and I’m just so honored that I got to meet you inside of my program and like just work with you and you’re amazing.

Thank you. Thank you for doing. Thank you. I needed that. Also, I wanted to say those two women like Jill Scott and Erykah Badu I used to love their music too, and I and I still do But I realize now that the music was created with a level of self acceptance that I don’t think any of us understood because they were so unapologetically themselves.

I remember that first Jill Scott song that she came out with when she took her earrings off in the video. She’s like, meet me outside. I’m just like, okay. Oh my God. That album is like one of my top albums like ever. Um, Oh, I love, I love Jill Scott’s like. Yes, like my girl like I love her. I would have said that at 15 like I Like I had any of those problems But but literally I just Yeah I don’t know.

I don’t, I’m, I re, I don’t know. They taught, they, yes, so much self acceptance and the audacity at that time, like these are like, now is old, you know, like, like at that time it is, it was just so audacious, like, ah, beautiful, beautiful. Um, where can people find you? Where can people learn about you? Where can people learn to love themselves through your work?

They can find me on Instagram at Yetti Says, um, but also if they want more of the deeper stuff, I would tell them to check out yettisays.com or my upcoming sub sack, which is Yetti Says. Ooh, that’s going to be good. All right. Thank you so much for being here. I adore you. I will make sure to add her information below.

Of course. It was such, such an honor. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I, I’ll probably see you on one of the calls. Yes, you will. I’ll see you soon.