In this engaging conversation, Jaimee Raquel shares her journey from a teacher to a social media influencer, discussing her struggles with health, the birth of her brand JFIT, and the challenges of navigating visibility and criticism in the online space. She emphasizes the importance of living in one’s truth and supporting the community through shared experiences and knowledge.
In this conversation, Jaimee Raquel discusses her evolving mindset towards content creation since going full-time, emphasizing the importance of providing value and building a supportive community. She shares her personal journey, including running a marathon despite health challenges, and highlights the significance of cultural heritage in her work.
The discussion also touches on overcoming imposter syndrome, the necessity of integrity in monetization, and the importance of community engagement in building trust with her audience. In this conversation, Catalina Del Carmen and Jaimee Raquel discuss the importance of content creation, community building, and the personal journeys of weight loss and coaching.
They emphasize the need for authenticity in content, the role of accountability in coaching, and the significance of engaging with the community. They also share insights into their future projects and the evolution of their content to better serve their audiences.
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Summary Transcript:
Jay or Jamie.
J.
Okay, okay, just making sure.
Yeah, just because Jamie spelled funky and I don’t know if you know, but in California you can Google or you can go on the CTC, which is like the credentialing website for teachers and you can Google like any or essentially like the user Google use that as Google to look up any teacher. And so that’s why I go by Jay, not Jamie. I was, I’ll talk about that. But yeah, so, and then I was an administrator. Yeah, so.
you a teacher?
Okay. Okay. Yeah, because I want to know your story.
That’s why I’ve always been by, well, was originally, was just like, Jamie, whatever, this isn’t gonna blow up. And then it did. And that’s when I was like, ⁓ I’m a leader of a school. Like I can’t. Yeah.
Okay.
God,
I had no idea. All right. Let me just mark this clip.
Jay, thank you so much for being here. Welcome to Show Up Real Podcast. I am so pumped to have you on the show. I felt like literally the algorithm brought you to me. So thank you, algorithm. Shout out. But welcome to the show. How are you doing? I’ll just basically, know, basics first.
Mm-hmm.
Thank you for having me. I’m excited to be here, share just a little bit about myself and my story. But overall, doing well, just adjusting to quarter two, but we have a lot of exciting things in the works and I can’t wait to share a little bit.
Yay.
Yeah.
So exciting. Well, I wanted you on the show for a couple of reasons. Number one is you have, I mean, I found you with lots and lots and lots of followers. Like I’m pretty much a new-ish follower, probably like a year or so. But you, one, I love your content. I found you like straight up with your cooking, with your healthy Mexican. I remember.
when I first found you sending it to my husband, I was like, you see, you see, we can make good food. And that’s how I found you. But as I’ve followed you for a while now, and I’ve kind of gotten to know you a little bit via socials, I just, love your, I love what you represent. There’s so much about what I, I love what you do. And I’m very curious to know about your story, but I also have so many questions.
about how it feels to have grown this type of business. Because I work with lot of Latinas and I work with lot of clients, coaches, photographers, service-based businesses who they’re growing online. And as we grow online, one of the main things I hear within my clients is visibility is what can be wildly uncomfortable to like…
Like even if you desire it, it’s like, it’s all fun desiring it, right? But then when it actually like, when you actually get the followers, it’s like your literal body has, I imagine, has an experience. And that’s, that’s a lot of what I wanted to talk to you about as well. So let’s get into it. Let’s get started with the beginning. Tell us how this all started. You have
I don’t even know your entire audience, I will say via Instagram only, mean, it’s like 700K or very, very close to that. I’m sure you have millions, maybe multi-millions. don’t know. I didn’t check. I’m not a big TikToker. So I didn’t check your TikTok, but like you have a huge following. How did this all start? Is this what you intended?
No, not what I intended at all. I’ll talk like from the very beginning of like, I’ll give you a little, little elevator. So born and raised in LA June Gemini like Kendrick Lamar. So that should just kind of give you an idea of who I am as a person. And I come, you know, product of immigrant parents. My dad literally will tell the story of how when he was seven years old, he crossed the border. They came for me truck on.
You
Yeah, yeah, tell us the story.
But he thought like he thought it was a big journey. He was like, my god This is so fun. And he said he was really hyper as a kid. He’s still very like hyper older man This is fun like we’re on an adventure. ⁓ So they came here, you know the the typical immigrant story they came for a better life My mom’s story is a little more
Yeah
That’s so cool.
interesting because my maternal grandparents might hear, it’s got a little bit more of a background. But similar, they came for a better life. My moms, my grandmothers, older brothers were able to bring her here through visa because they actually served in the United States Army during Vietnam. And what they promised back in the day, because there’s still a huge immigrant population in our armed services,
Wow.
They promised them visas if they came back from service. They were on the front lines. Like I have pictures of one of them with like a rifle. They shared stories of how like they were literally alone. Like they were put at post alone. So I think it was a little bit of a death mission. They didn’t expect them to come back. Luckily they didn’t have a lot of encounters. They just like very lucky. And so that’s how both my parents got here.
Wow.
So at the core, both sides, like, because a lot of people will say my mom’s side did it the right way, right? They knew at the end of the day, they were a source of labor for this country. And they know for both sides, because my grandparents, my dad’s parents worked in factories, my mom’s side, you know, they were in the army, like literally putting their lives on the line. They knew at the end of the day that they wanted us to have a fighting chance. They didn’t want us to have to.
Find our you know our labor intensive job and you know put our lives on the line enter dangerous conditions at a factory And so they just really push education. So I went to UCLA right out of high school. I was gonna be a lawyer majored in political science just did all the things right and I don’t know. I woke up for the LSAT my senior year and I just wasn’t down. I Something in me just said no But when my dad called me that night, he’s like, did it go? And I’m like, I didn’t take it freaks out because
Yeah.
He and my mom did everything possible to make sure that I would.
Yeah, I think the
freak out was fair. I would have freaked out too.
It was very fair.
It was very fair. So he freaks out. What are going to do? I didn’t know. I had no idea because that’s I went to UCLA pre-law and I was just I never thought about anything else. But we ended up going to career fairs. I didn’t even think I was going to go to career fairs. But there I saw a lady offering a program kind of like Teach for America where you had a teacher residency. You’d have your master’s in a year and you
Wow. Yeah.
had a commitment of two years. So I thought, well, I’ll have my master’s in a year. That’ll kind of call my dad down. And then I’ll have a career in Mexico. And I think for most of Latin America, teachers are very respected. So it was kind of like, my daughter’s a teacher, right? So I’m like, OK, this will calm down for a couple of years. And then I’ll go back to law school. Well, that did not happen. I fell in love with teaching.
Yeah.
and I ended up working my way up the ladder. I would eventually be a vice principal. I left the education world as essentially a consultant for different schools in the Huntington Park Vernon community of schools. I helped them with their instructional practices and just helping admin build out what they wanted for the year. And I was a coach for teachers as well. My job was
very, very, very, every day it was different and it manifested in different ways based on the school I was serving. But at the end of the day, I was there to help schools and make sure that principals felt supported so that their teachers could feel supported and principals wear a lot of different hats. So on the days that they weren’t able to like physically go in and support teachers, that’s when I would tap in. So, yeah.
Yeah. So cool. I have a client.
It’s so funny. Right before this call, I was with a client and she does exactly what you were saying. She’s a coach and a consultant for schools specifically for APs and different school leaders. wow. Okay. Keep going. Tell us more.
Thank
Yeah
Yeah.
So through that journey, I, so I am a teacher, you know, it’s a very selfless job. I was working in the Pico Union. I could see MacArthur Park from my classroom. So it was, you know, a title one school with a lot of needs. And so I poured my heart and soul into it. And as a result, I lost myself. I ended up putting the 70 pounds that I put on was literally like my first five years of teaching.
And I was like, okay. And by the time I was over around like 225 pounds, I realized like I was drinking three cups of coffee a day. was, you know, always getting fast food. Don’t get me started with food deserts, but that’s like something else that, you know, students, the community struggled with. And as a result, because I was in the community and I was working these 12 hour days, I was also suffering. you know, teachers have a 30 minute lunch. So it was…
Wow.
You eat this or you don’t eat at all. And those are your only options. So I started my weight loss journey also because I have a congenital heart murmur. And when I went to the doctor, I would go to the cardiologist once a year because my heart murmur is very mild. They’d be like, oh, you’re good, see you in a year. But then when I went and I was like over 225 pounds, they’re like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, We need to actually put you on this and that and.
we need to run extra tests and it’s worsening. And essentially my cardiologist said like, you are making your heart work harder because of your lifestyle changes. Like he’s like, you have gone almost 30 years, because at the time I think I was like 28. He’s like, you’ve gone almost 30 years without needing surgery. So if you continue on this path, you will need open heart surgery like your father and like your grandfather. But this is
Wow.
It’s really just your lifestyle. And I was like, okay, I’m 30. I’m gonna be 32.
You’re how old now?
No, I mean when this conversation happened.
I was 27 or 28. So like, yeah, that was another thing. I’m like, how am I not even 30 and I need to be put on heart.
Wow.
Yeah, I was gonna say you’re like in your
20s. Yeah, that’s crazy.
I mean granted it is like it
was genetic. was I was born with my heart murmur. So it was already there. But like I said, it was mild. I could do most things. I could exercise.
Bye.
Yeah. I mean, just getting that
news, even though, like, at that age, like, that’s big.
Yeah, and right before that, my dad was actually in the hospital. suffered, I can’t remember the medical term, but it was a more intense heart attack because he had, like I said, he had open heart surgery and everything, and his is just really, really bad just because those were the cards he was dealt. And he almost passed away. He had a resting heart rate of 180 beats per minute. That was his resting heart, like just sitting.
My goodness, wow.
Yeah, so I coupled those two things,
dovetailed, and I was like, no, I need to change my life. And luckily it was the summer that I had off, and so I just started really pouring into myself meal prepping, seeing what worked, and my family because, like I said, my dad’s side, they all have heart, well not all of them, but a lot of my dad’s cousins, a lot of my uncles, aunts.
They have heart murmurs as well. So when I started my journey and I kind of gave them the news, they were very supportive, always texting, always calling, but typical big Mexican family, I was getting overwhelmed. So I started the Jfit page and I said, whoever wants to join my journey, feel free to follow me here. I’m just gonna post here these blanket updates for everybody. And it was actually J Gits Fit. It wasn’t even Jfit yet. And.
You know, they started following me. I set it at 100 followers. It was literally just my personal diary. And then one of my uncles said, hey, you know what? Like, why don’t you try to make this your side hustle? You don’t get paid a lot in education. Try it out. And I was like, I sat on it. I sat on it. I sat on it. And then pandemic hit and I started posting on TikTok. I think I got 100,000 followers on TikTok. Instagram was growing very slowly.
And I don’t know what came over me. One day I was just like Mexican meal prep for weight loss and it went viral. And yeah, it’s just never the same. So that was that. And here we are now and it just continues to grow. Unfortunately, like most districts, LAUSD doesn’t see admin and teacher growth as a necessity. They say it more as a bonus.
And that’s just, unfortunately, the law of the land when you’re dealing with a very small budget. And so we were laid off, like my department, I tried, I was like, maybe I’ll become a vice principal. And one of my principals, badass Latina, first gen, she was like, no, your page is so important. You need to continue sharing that, and maybe that’s why.
the journey has become what it’s become because you needed to be forced out because I don’t think I would have ever left education. JFIT was really a side hustle. And she’s like, I think this was the universe or God or whatever higher power you believe in telling you that you need to give this a shot. since then, it’s just grown. It’s been about a year. I want to say it’s, yeah, it’s been about a year since this has been my full time. Well, we’re coming up on a year because end of the school year. It’s been, yeah, it’s only been my full time job for a year.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Just a year?
Wow, so you were working before that? ⁓ my goodness. So were you making money with your page, with your influence, all of it, before you quit? OK, OK.
Yeah, I was supporting schools. Yeah, I was supporting schools.
Yeah, my home base was.
Yes, yes, I
was already monetizing. But it was holding me back like I’d get invited to events or you know, people would want me on podcasts and I couldn’t do it. I was so lucky because once we were told, actually, yeah, around April that we were going to be laid off and to just start getting our ducks in a row because June 30 effective June 30, we were done. And so I was very lucky because I had just got the book deal.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
And
I remember thinking about, my God, I bit off more than I could chew. What am I thinking? And by that time, after the state testing, one of my principals was like, well, your work here is done. You’ve wrapped up everything. There’s not much you’re gonna do after this. And she literally let me write my first draft just when I was there.
Yeah.
Wow. So, so cool. Okay, so I want to go back to you had a thought that was like Mexican meal prep for weight loss, right? We have ideas all the time, right? Like all the time there’s like random ideas. So you had this idea, you implemented it, you made, I’m sure you made like a post or two. Did you go all in from the get?
Like, did you have this idea and you’re like, this is what I’m doing, like, this is it? Or was it just an idea, just like other ideas you had had?
It was, it was, so I was already posting my weekly meal prep because I was in education. So the way I thought was, I’m already doing this, I might as well record it. And I was playing around with different formats. And I had actually posted other Mexican, like low calorie Mexican recipes, and they got no views, they did not go viral. Yeah, and I don’t know if it was just the format or how I was presenting.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Interesting.
But when I did this meal prep, I put Mexican meal prep and then for weight loss. I don’t even know why I thought to write that and it just went viral. And from there, more people started asking. So I started incorporating it. And then I believe, yeah, that because I was about a year, it was about a year posting and I still hadn’t really gone viral. And from there, I remember we went to Mexico and I just started
Mm-hmm.
to talk more about cooking and what I could do and really figure out the ingredients and come up with ideas. And that’s when I really just took off. was like, you know what? This seems to be a hit. Let’s keep on going. And so yeah, I would post. I would get more views, more followers. And I think there was a part of it that was, like I was viral also because if you look at me,
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
people don’t look at me and say, oh, you’re Mexican. People look at me and think that I’m Armenian, Middle Eastern, my dad too. And so I think there was a lot of misconceptions about who I was. Was this Armenian girl, you know, doing, making our food and that’s not real Mexican food. A lot of discourse that I think just made it even bigger. So that was nice.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
How, sorry to cut you off, but with this conversation, one of the things I wanted to ask you was about visibility, right? So one thing my clients, I mentioned this earlier, but one thing that so many of my clients kind of have resistance to is having a lot of eyes on them. And even when there are moments when they grow a, you know, like.
a little burst of a following because something does well or because they were featured wherever they could get the visibility. And then they literally have a lot of thoughts about, not only having eyes on them, but also like having people critique you and having little haters and like all of that. How did you handle that? Right? So you’re already mentioning it, you know, some of it now. like,
What was your mindset around that? Like, what did you tell yourself that made you kind of be okay about it?
So for me, I just told myself, this is who I’m not lying to anybody. This is exactly what I did to lose over 75 pounds. This is my story. If I think if I was lying, there would be that, I’m not 100 % sure. Or I hadn’t lost a big amount of weight, then maybe I could have, I might have wrestled with it. But at the end of the day, I knew that this was my truth. And it also helps that
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
while talking with like my Tias, my cousins, especially in Mexico. One of my cousins in Mexico is a doctor. And then I have a nutritionist cousin and I have two of my mom’s cousins. So my Tias, they’re literally Mexican history professors. And so being able to have conversations with them, right? And it really just solidified what I was doing. And
Wow. Yeah.
I could back it up, know, like, and it’s very nice to be able to go to them and say, do know, let’s talk about this, let’s talk about that and have the science behind it of knowing like, scientifically, the research is there, but also the history, the health aspect, right? And so for me, I’ve just had to remind myself what I’m doing is for the better of my community. By sharing my truth, I am
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, 100%.
hoping people. And so yes, there’s always going to be haters, there’s always going to be people that critique you. But if you are living in your truth, do not have imposter syndrome. And I think that that’s what it really boils down to is imposter syndrome. And we need to snap out of that. But also, another thing that I realized is once I get those hate comments or Mexican food for weight loss, what a joke, this is a fantasy or whatever, you know, whatever they want to write, I’m like,
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yay.
This is about to get me more views. This is about to get me more visibility and in turn more followers and my reach is just about to expand and I’m going to start helping more people just because the algorithm is seeing it as something worthy of pushing out.
Yeah.
Yeah, like.
100 % like you’re gonna help more people because of this
It was funny one of my cousins like once I had a good following he said what do you do when you get hate comments? And I’m like respond I respond He laughed and he’s like, thought you would have blocked you would just block them. I’m like, no, respond I said because those are the ones likely to have a conversation with you in your comments once again the algorithm sees The engagement and pushes your content out. So I’m like I respond I respond I love it. I welcome it
Ugh.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Like I said, I know that my approach my content is not only based in history. It’s based in science and Research I can back it up. I work with a registered dietitian to help come up with my recipes We tweak them and I’m also very fortunate to have my brother’s friend who is a chef We’re gonna start working on a couple things together and who also Yeah, who also will help me play around with ingredients to really perfect the recipes. So
Mm-hmm.
So fun.
I have a team and I’m very grateful for them. And I think just like your clients, they have a team, they have the experience, they have the expertise. And if they don’t have the expertise, they’re smart enough to go out and seek it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, one of the things that you, one thing I wanted to call out that is important is that you started as a personal diary. And that’s the same way. So the way my business started was because I decided to start a podcast. I did it like the unorthodox way. I started a podcast first. And well, I mean, I’d had like YouTube or whatever, but my podcast was the first thing I was like consistent with. And
Mm-hmm.
I just made a deal with myself that like, cause I wanted a business, but I never had a business. So I was like, I basically, was my diary. was like, y’all I’m starting a podcast and I’m starting a business, but I don’t even know what the business is yet. So let’s go. And I would just like, learn, take action, report back. And that was my podcast, right? Like the first hundred episodes. And so I wanted to emphasize on that because I think, and I work with a lot of coaches, right? different coaches, health coaches.
freaking personal trainers, life coaches, money coaches, photographers, lawyers, like just different service based businesses. But I think one thing that I want to call out that you said is like, if you’re an expert, then just live in the truth of it, right? Like just be in the truth of it. And I think that gives people a lot of freedom to just share. I’m curious for you actually, how has there been a shift for you in your
Mm-hmm.
mindset in terms of like how you think about your content now that you’re full-time? Like has your brain shifted around, like has anything changed in terms of your relationship with your content in the last year since you’ve gone full-time?
I know at my core that I want to continue to provide, you know, things of value. when people come to me, they come for a weight loss journey, right? Or typically they’re like, like I want to get, I want to eat healthier, but I don’t want to give up my cultural foods. So I would say now, if anything, I just feel the pressure a little more to produce content of value.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
But in terms of shifting,
no. I also think about branching out and providing other content. Like recently I ran the LA Marathon and I tried to share a little bit around that but I also took it a step back because I had to work with my cardiologist team because for the most part, like I said, my heart murmur, I can run for an hour.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But the marathon with anybody, even if you have a perfectly working heart, that’s a lot of stress on the body. And so my journey looked very different and then people would DM me and I’m like, I’m not a doctor, I’m not a cardiologist. And every heart murmur is different. Like my father will never be approved to run a marathon. And so…
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. That’s crazy
that you ran, I mean, I’ve run a half marathon. You’ve ran a whole marathon with a heart problem. Like that’s crazy. That’s a lot of safety that you have to have with yourself.
yeah, no, like
I was checking in with my cardiologist every two weeks. Like he, well, he along with the sports medicine doctor had to plan out, you know, my training plan. And we had to talk about like, hey, these are your thresholds. And I was very, very, very lucky that two of my friends have doctor spouses. And so I had, I had Victor at mile nine who just like checked me real quick. He’s my friend’s fiance. And then at the end I had my high school best friends.
Wow.
Nice.
Aww, that’s awesome.
Wife check me. She’s like, okay. She’s like go finish
Wow, wow, wow, wow, that’s so cool.
Yeah, so definitely I would say another thing that when you are, you know, whether you’re scared of the visibility or whatever it may be, make sure you have a community behind you. think that’s what’s really elevated me because anytime I have a thought and I’m just, you know, kind of spitballing with my friends, they’ll stop me in my tracks. Like, absolutely not. Like I remember when I was talking to my friend Ratan about running the marathon, he’s like, this is so awesome. I was getting a little worried. He’s like, why are you worried?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
He’s like, at mile 21, he’s like, D and I are gonna be there. And he’s like, and D has a literal doctor. She’s gonna have a stethoscope and everything. I’m like, you’re right. okay. I’m like, D is there. And he’s like, and even if we weren’t there, there are medical tents all over the route, like all over the course. And I was like, yeah, okay. And then once again, like I lose that imposter syndrome. And I think that’s what it really boils down to is reminding yourself of who you are.
Hey, you got.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
especially
as Latinas, as first gen, we are some badasses.
Yeah. We are. We are so naturally. I mean, because we come from a line of like people who are also badasses.
like.
right? I think that’s another thing too where I’m like, I will not let and I know, you know, like I said at the beginning, my dad thought it was a big joke when he was coming to the United States. didn’t understand why it was seven. I don’t care. You took that journey and I will never ever, ever let you say that you took that journey in vain.
So, so good.
Yeah, good.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. 100%. 100%. My family, my mom, I actually don’t know my dad’s story now that I’m thinking about it. My dad passed now, but he has a lot of siblings and like, have theas that I could ask. Actually, that’s very interesting now I wanna ask. I’m like, how come I don’t know that? Well, we were divorced, so I didn’t grow up with him like super, super tight, but.
Right?
still now I’m curious, we, my mom actually came with her sister because my grandma, her mom, she came first and I’m like, do I know how she came? want to, I’m trying to remember how she got here, but anyways, she was a housekeeper for a white family in San Francisco loaded. I grew up going to the house that she
Mm-hmm.
she was the housekeeper at. It was a seven story, a mansion, seven story mansion in San Francisco. The kitchen looked at the Golden Gate Bridge, like the big windows just looked at the Golden Gate Bridge. But they were good people. And they sponsored my mom and my tia, like 100 % paid for everything, I think too. Like just
Yeah, because she was like a live-in housekeeper. had live-in housekeeper. They had a live-in chef. They had a whole floor, like, that I remember going to when I was a kid. I mean, we would go to all seven floors. I don’t know who let me run wild. But, ⁓ yeah. But looking back, I’m like, my God, like, they’re, yeah, they’re, I think they’re such unique stories. I’m Guatemalan, too. I’m not Mexican, but.
Got to do it.
So I don’t know what that route, what it looked like, but I’m curious how my grandma got here. going back to imposter syndrome, I feel like that’s 100 % so much of the work, even for me. It’s so funny, after my business model is so different, right? Because I’m more like, teach sales and marketing because I remember when I was starting my content journey.
Mm-hmm.
I used to tell myself like the story that I like I need so many followers to start a business. And that’s what I thought at that time. And I also wanted to create content like I started content years and years and years ago for creative purposes. Like I had a fashion blog and I was just like playing around and doing YouTube and like, la la la. But I also was a business major and I love business and I always wanted a business. So when I kind of got on this journey like
It was more like, it’ll turn into something. I was like, I might as well do content, because eventually it’ll only help me build a following and kind of create community. And eventually when I figure what the hell this is supposed to be out, then at least I’ll have people to sell to. That’s what I figured. So I created my podcast, and that built a little bit. But where I want to get to is…
So much of the work I do now is more, I mean, I teach business, right? So like it is selling and marketing and like converting content. And a lot of my clients, they, and myself, we, you know, we grow these businesses with a really small following and then increasing like the marketing and sales skills, right? But I think when you’ve grown a business that way,
it’s really easy to get in the zone of like, this is what I have to do. Like, this is the type of content I create when the reality, at least from what I’ve learned, is that audience building content and sales content are really, really like opposite in terms of especially highly, highly like sales content, right? Versus audience building content because audience building content is…
Mm-hmm.
relatability is so important, right? Like relatability is so important. This is where I should ask you actually, before I go on this. Talk to the expert. So I’m curious for you. You’ve built this amazing community, right? This amazing following of people who just not only love you and love what you do and love your content and the way you serve your community. What?
has helped you build your following? Like I know that’s a general question, but like what are the top like, I don’t know, one to three things that you’ve learned as a person who is an expert at building community over and over and over again? And yeah, yeah, that’s my question for you because I feel like so many people, we could, you know, there’s a lot of ways to build an audience. There’s not, I don’t think that’s the case for,
someone who has like 700K, right? I think most people can create a decent following. What have you done right? Like what have you done right when it comes to content and building community specifically?
Well, thank you for calling me an expert on building community.
You ⁓
excuse me You are
I don’t, I think that’s another
thing that I have to deal, when we’re working through on a little tangent, but like just when people come to me like, well, thank you, I don’t know. But I would say first thing and I’ve always, and I realized this down the line was that I was providing value for my community. And so you always have to think about what is that value? I remember one of my uncles, his friend was starting a
Yeah, you’re amazing.
Mm-hmm.
like a fitness coaching program. And he had no followers or he had a very little following, like no more than 100. And he would just post before and afters of him because he also went through weight loss journey, my uncle and a couple other friends. like basically his little circle that had lost weight, but he wouldn’t provide any value. And they’re like, well, what is he doing wrong? I’m like, he’s not providing them anything. can’t, they don’t trust him. He hasn’t built a community.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
those
before and afters, he keeps on posting himself, which is great, right? But it needs to be, you need to show them that it can be duplicated so that they can build that trust, that they can build that community and have that investment in you, right? But also like you need to throw the, essentially you need to provide content, like valuable content. And I think that’s something that I continue to do. I’ve had companies reach out to me and say, hey, like let’s monetize, you can use our platform.
Thank you.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
and charge X amount of dollars a month. And if you charge X amount of dollars a month, you can, you you’re going to make so much money. And I think that that, that, you know, that’s a great way to monetize content.
Mm-hmm.
But we also have to build that trust. if I’m, if I, think if I started that right away, and that’s something, you know, I think about, but I think if I started that right away and never gave my audience a chance to try my recipes for free, right? Because at that point, they’re more willing to try it versus even if it’s $10.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
I’ve tried
your recipes just to tell my audience too, by the way. I’ve literally tried, think, I forget the name of it. The one with potatoes and ground beef. I remember specifically. Yes! That was the first recipe I made from your, and then I did one with nopales. I forget which one it was though.
I’ll be with you.
there’s so many nopales recipes. I love nopales and they’re so good for you. Bye.
Yeah, because my husband likes it. I’m trying
to eat more of it, but… That’s a lie. That’s a lie. I’m not trying that hard. I need to try harder.
It is,
It’s an acquired taste.
It’s an acquired taste as a kid. wasn’t, I wouldn’t, you couldn’t catch me eating nopales, but as I’ve gotten older, you can throw them in smoothies, but I will, let’s get back to the question, but I’m like, if there’s one thing that I’m like before I end this tangent, nopales are so good for you. If you can find a way to eat them, eat them, whether that’s in a smoothie, in a guisado, eat them.
Yeah.
just try to incorporate them the best way you can.
Well, my husband loves
them. He grew up loving them. So I feel like now that you’re telling me this, I’m like, OK, yeah, should this needs to be like a part of the routine? I just did not grow. mean, well, one, I’m not Mexican, right? So I just didn’t grow up with that food. But I do like it like when I eat it at a restaurant or like somewhere or in Mexico. Right. I like it. But I think I need to learn how to make it well.
Yeah.
Yeah, you can try grilling them. There’s so many different ways to eat them, but it doesn’t matter how you eat them, just get them in. I promise you will, yeah, they make your skin look, I think it’s also the sliminess. It just throws people off. Yeah, it throws people off, which I understand, but eat them. But in that, also sharing, that’s another thing. I mean, it does dovetail very nicely where…
is good for you.
The aloe vera. Yeah.
I share these things that have been researched that my cousin will send me little studies. And obviously, because nopales are a huge thing in Mexican cuisine, and it’s not a major… When have you ever seen a white fitness influencer talk about the benefits of nopales? Exactly, right? And so because that’s not top of mind for the American diet or fitness industry, they’re not gonna talk about it versus…
Like never.
Yeah.
my cousin who is reading about this stuff, she’s like, hey, this is a new study that Mexico just did. This is a new study from UNAM. And then I’m able to share that stuff. And I’m not gatekeeping that information. So I think that’s another thing. There’s different ways to provide value and make it very accessible for your audience. Eventually, yes, you can monetize your recipes or whatever it is that you’re offering. But at the very beginning,
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And to this day, I will still put recipes in the captions. I remember when I wrote my cookbook, my manager asked me, said, now that you have this cookbook, we can continue to monetize this cookbook by, you know, saying like, okay, the recipes in my cookbook and not putting the recipe in the caption. I’m like.
Mm-hmm.
I hear you, but I have to push back because at the end of the day, my audience is a Latino audience. Like sometimes we are deciding between paying the bills and, you know, buying groceries or having to put another thing on a credit card. And I can’t in good faith.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It’s worth the extra effort.
Yeah, I’m like, cannot in good faith like do that. If they have the disposable income to buy my book and you know, it is great. He’s he was like, but it’s only $20. It’s a one time purchase. I’m like, sometimes they don’t have that. And I am not going to do that to my community. Like you’re not going to catch me doing that. And I think that’s another thing like integrity. If you say you’re for the community, really be for the community. And that’s why I will very happily take on multiple partnerships with big businesses. Because that
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
That to me offsets monetizing my recipes or removing the caption. You also have to be very mindful and know what is your North Star at the end of the day? Where are you making your money and who can you support? I think that’s something that my community and my following very much recognizes. That yes, please support me. It does help me financially buying my cookbook.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
But also if you don’t have the means, I understand and that’s why I provide different avenues. I have a free newsletter that they can subscribe to where I put more recipes. So just different ways for them to get involved. Because I think once you start monetizing everything, that’s when people are like, okay, you’re just here for a paycheck. And not to say that, and you should, and I’m not saying you should not monetize your services because you deserve to be compensated and compensated.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
fairly for your services. But if it comes to community building, we’ve got to, it’s a push and pull. And eventually you’ll find, like, I was shocked. I was shocked at the number of people that not only purchased my book, but went out and posted it on their story, know, shared it, sent me DMs, like just the overall excitement around the cookbook. And I was like, okay, see, thank you. Like, don’t worry, your community will have your back.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
100%.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, 100%. You you said something and I wanna just emphasize it because I teach content, right? But I teach content for service providers and they don’t have big audiences, but a lot of what I tell them, but they do have this big heart to help their community. It’s why I started. Like the only reason I have this business is because I was sitting with my Tias and my cousins and at a table and…
we were talking about, my mom was telling them a story about how I fought for my pay increase, my old job, and I remember them saying, I could never do that, and I could never do this, and da da da da, and just telling me how much they don’t, they’re unhappy in their roles, and they don’t really see growth there, and I remember leaving that feeling really irritated, because I was like, this is such bullshit, they’re fucking leaders, why couldn’t,
You can actually ask for a fucking raise. Like I remember literally feeling angry after. I was like, that’s such bullshit. But so much of the work I do, especially at that time, because I was in my nine to five, I would just consume so much personal development, podcasts and content. Right. Like I just lived in that world, but everybody was white. Like every single person I followed was white. And I was like, well, I can’t imagine them listening to these women. They’re just that it’s just not like that. I just don’t see it.
And that’s so much of the work why I started. But I want to emphasize on something you said. were like, if you’re going to say, like if you say you’re for the community, then be for the community. And I think that’s so important because I feel like when people, you know, on the realm of I don’t have a big following, but I have a business, I have an expertise and I want to, you know, like I want to sell something with that. If that’s you, what I have learned that is also the most
converting content is leaving it on the table. think when people are, especially I see this with our community, because 99 % of my clients are Latinas, we have this thing with, we have some beliefs about our communities, which are true, right? That have truth that they can’t afford certain things, or we’ve seen our parents struggle, or our families struggle, or certain,
parts of our family struggle or we’ve struggled, right? And there’s truth to that, but there’s also truth that we spent a ton of fucking money, right? Like there’s also truth that we are very educated and we’re actually like graduating at rates that are much higher. Like there’s also truth to all these other things. And when people, when specifically for my clients, one thing I see is like when they start creating content for business, it can get very, like I see them get very like,
I’m gonna post this, but I’m not gonna give too much because then you won’t work for me or with me or something. And I just wanted to call what you said out because the reason I’ve had success is because when I’ve created content, I’m literally in my brain saying, what can I fucking say today that’s gonna make them take action? Everything, I’ll give you every framework inside every one of my programs. I have nothing to hide.
Mm-hmm.
The point of the content is that you go and you do the shit, right? Like that you take the action, that you actually do what is in your heart and what you, whatever your goals are, right? As a, specifically as a coach. And that mentality will create community. Like that is what makes something shareable. That is what makes someone send it to a friend via text. That is…
Mm-hmm.
what also builds community. And I think that’s the mindset of like, okay, if you’re really about it for the community, then like, just put it all fucking out there. Like you don’t have to hide nothing, even from a service-based business, you don’t have to. Like I always tell my clients, like, you actually want them to get results before they work with you. Like that’s the point. Like you want them to love your content so much.
that I also tell them, I was like, some of your best advocates are people who’ve never fucking worked with you. Like, they’ve never given you a dollar, but they’ve probably told the world about you, and those people they told have invested in you, right? Or have bought your cookbook, or have done these things. And I love that you said that. Like, if you say you’re about community, then be for the fucking community. And I think that’s the mindset to have around content.
Exactly, and I think especially for coaches you can Google anything chat GPT. You can do it all Information is at your disposal and people don’t at this Pope. Well, I don’t know I think maybe chat GPT doesn’t know how like I think I still have a little bit over chat GPT just at current moment eventually, I about five years probably not but They can go out how to lose weight
Yeah, yeah, chat, yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
how to, know, like what is the calorie deficit, all of these things, right? They can play around in their kitchen. They can figure it out by themselves. But at the end of the day, when it comes to coaching, what they need is they need accountability because like I said, everything’s at their fingertips. And so it doesn’t really matter whether you provide that recipe or you you put it in the caption or whatever, or whatever your framework. At the end of the day,
Yeah.
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They can Google and find that framework. Now, are they going to take action with that framework? It’s a mess up, right? 50-50. It’s up to them. And that’s where, know, especially if you’re a coach, do not hesitate to throw out all your information because at this point, it’s just information. And where you come in as a coach is you provide that accountability, you provide that support, you’re that thought partner for them.
100%.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
you watch them continue to flourish with the little bit they’ve already done because they’ve already had a taste of who you are as a coach or your mentality, your framework, whatever it is that you provide.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm a hundred percent. Yeah, that’s big a big lesson for me in business It’s like sometimes I even at you know, sometimes I’m like, how have I been able to do this with such little Little following specifically. I mean my podcast is like my biggest thing my kind of my biggest audience but so much of my work has been Trying to even figure out what I did right, right? I’m like, what exactly did I do right and so much of that
Thank you.
I mean, I’m sure you feel the same way. You’re like, I mean, sure, you show up, you do the work, you get the results, right? But it’s like, you know, some, you know, some, I think there is also something just special about each of us. And our job is to figure that out and exercise that. And even if we don’t figure it out, I think it’s our job to like put it out there and be vulnerable and be a human and share our stories and be willing to put, you know.
put ourselves out there like for the sake of helping and elevating your community. So I love this so much. Okay. I have one more question for you. What’s next for you? What’s happening? This is your second year in full time, right? What are you excited about for the next year or couple of years?
Hmm?
I can’t talk about it too much, but I think my most exciting project is that I will be working with the state on a couple of initiatives they have coming. Just like, you know, as a partnership, so like you’ll see it in, like in my feed, and I’m really, really, really manifesting that that becomes something bigger, because it’s a typical partnership, you know, promoting what…
Wow.
Yeah.
the state is already doing. But I’m hoping that that becomes a lot more because I would in, and I’m manifesting it, so I’m speaking it out to the universe right now. I’d love to do like cooking demos. I’d love to attend fairs and just do that kind of community building and in that promoting what might be a second book.
Yes.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
We’re starting to see a we’ll see a little shift in my content. Nothing too crazy. But we’re gonna start to not only provide the weight loss recipes, but what do we do after weight loss and how do we maintain? And so we’ll still, at my core, we’ll still have Mexican meals and Mexican meal prep for weight loss. But now we’re going to start a more balanced series. Like, okay, you’ve lost the weight, of course, great. You no longer have to be in a calorie deficit.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But you also can’t go back to what you used to do. So how are we incorporating things like fiber and protein into our recipes, but also enjoying really good Mexican cooking, like just good cooking that your mom would make for you or your grandma would make for you. Like, how do we just enjoy those things? And so it’ll branch out a little bit more. Yeah, and the…
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
⁓ and as you get
older, because I’m older than you, as you get older, I feel like because you know what I’m starting to think about now is like, because I’m 30. I’m turning 38 this month. I’m not that much older. So dramatic. But still, I’m turning 38 this month. And I’m like one of my clients, one of my past clients, her name is Naomi. She’s a holistic health coach and she she she’s Dominican.
born and raised in the Bronx, I think. But no, she was born in Dominican Republic. But regardless, she’s taught me so much about perimenopause and my hormones and just like all, I’ve learned so much from her podcasts. It’s called Wealthy Generation. And now at this age, she’s, cause I would tell her things and she’d be like,
I think that’s the perimenopause starting. And I’m like, what? I’m 30 something, right? Like, what do you mean? And there’s just so much education that women don’t know about this stuff. So I’m learning it. And I could imagine now that you’re telling me this, I’m like, ⁓ I bet you Jay’s going to take us on that journey when she gets to that phase of life too. And that’s so fun just to.
to look at like to be a part of that journey, like for your community to come with you on that journey. So that sounds amazing.
for that they might go on an engagement journey with me as well as a family planning journey. I think that yeah that’s really that’s that’s definitely a little bit more down the line.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, yeah,
40s and stuff. it’s, you know what I love is that like, you’re kind of bringing like, when you, you’re bringing your audience with you, right? So it’s like, okay, cool. We lost the weight, like now what? And then there’s so many parts of that that are, you know, like, it’s like your business can grow all around you, which is, yeah, duh, but also so cool.
Yeah, yeah, we’re on we’re also I’m in the I’m in the merch making phase of my Yes, I’ll give you guys a little teaser. So it started with my best friend, Marty, who is the original JFIT supporter. She was with me when I had one follower because it was her. I’ve been since high school ever down to death. And I always tell her like when JFIT gets big enough.
fun!
Uh-huh.
Yeah.
you’re gonna have a job at the JFIT Corporation. And so it started, we we trained for the marathon together and we were, you know, the zone two running where, know, you have to take it slow, you should be able to have a conversation, blah, blah, blah, blah. And neither of us wanted to do it and…
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I was like, okay, we’re like, fine, we’ll do the 10 miles. And I’m like, but you know what? And we had a lot to talk about because she’s also a teacher. And I was like, but you know what? We’re gonna take it at Cheesemipace. Because she is, she’s absolutely drop dead gorgeous. lots of men want to take her out on dates. None of them are ever good enough for her. So she has lots of lots of dates. And so I’m like, okay, Cheesemipace, so you can catch me up on this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy. And she’s like, okay.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And she could catch, and she’s like, and I have drama at the school. And I’m like, perfect. I’m like, that’s 10 miles worth of Cheesemipace. And so what I came up with was essentially we’re going to make some merch around Cheesemipace. I’m gonna start a, like a walk run. I guess I’ll call it a walk club. It’s not a run club, but really Cheesemipace, what does that look like for you? if you’re able to hold a conversation jogging, awesome. You’re gonna join us.
Love it.
Love it.
Amazing. my God, please do that. would, if it’s real life, I would join in a second. I’m like literally on this, like this year, I’m like, we, I need in-person community more than ever. So we’re working on, like, I’m thinking of a couple of things I want to do. It’s just so much of my community is in the Bay area, but I mean, I got people, I have a lot of clients in LA and I feel like I’ve been here long enough where I think it’s time to like put something on and.
Yes.
Mmm.
I did an event in the Bay Area called Business Brunch once, which was really fun. And I’m going to bring it here this year, and I want to do one in New York too. But yeah, I feel like that inspired me. But if you do this cheese mip paste, that is a good little phrase. I love that. I love, love, love that.
Do it in LA.
Yes, and
what we really want to push and like I said, we’re expanding the Jfit brand in the sense of yes, okay, you also like or you may still be in the process of losing weight, which is why, you know, we will never really I’ll never really go away from.
Yeah, ⁓ I am
I just lost 40 pounds by the way. I haven’t told my my my ⁓ audience I this morning I I was like let me put my number in you know like my fitness pal or whatever and then it was like 40 and I was like, yeah, I need a It’s been it feels like the slowest fucking journey ever. I want to say like last year. I lost 30 pounds and then this
Congratulations!
That is so exciting! Yes!
Yay!
quarter, guess is, I guess that’s good, huh? 10 pounds, yeah. It just feels so slow, but I’m also like not trying to rush it. I’m just trying to feel good, you know? I got two kids. I’m like trying to sleep too.
Yeah, that is good.
Yeah, and that’s what.
Yeah, that’s what I tell people. I’m like slow and steady wins the race. Like do not… I always tell my clients, you get no bonus points for losing the weight quickly.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, yeah. So that’s a good reminder. I needed that. Because I’m like always, I mean, it’s been working okay. I just, you know what it is, food is the thing that’s hard for me. And I think the biggest change that, I mean, the biggest change is like, I just don’t eat as much. Like looking back to like last, not last year, but like the year, I mean, I have a two year old, I was postpartum, like I had a really tough pregnancy. So lots of circumstances.
But I mean, I feel like my eating still has so much work to do, because I haven’t, I don’t, it’s not that I eat great, it’s just that I’m not eating like, when I compare it to how much I was eating before, it’s much less. And it’s just this year where I’m trying to be a little bit more intentional about like, what is the food that I’m eating, but. One foot.
Yeah, and that’s that’s people always think ⁓
well You know when I the miss can I think the biggest misconception about losing weight is well I’m eating so that should be the easy part now. I just have to switch it up Exercise is gonna be the hard part. I’m like no you’ll find that exercise is the easy part it is Changing your eating habits which that will bring you
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that’s what
I’ve also like I’ve my I basically started my exercise routine last year and kind of struggled through it. But going into this year, I’ve exercised probably more than all of last year. Like I think that’s the routine I’ve that feels good because I like feeling strong and I like, know, so anyways, I adore you. I know anyone in my audience who already follows you definitely loves you. But if you don’t follow.
That’s amazing!
Where can the people find you? Where should they go first? And then tell us anywhere else. If we want to be ingested into your world more, tell us how.
So you can follow me at Jfit8, so J-A-I-fit the number eight on Instagram and TikTok. I recommend Instagram because TikTok has a funky algorithm and you don’t know how many messages I get on TikTok talking about. I haven’t seen your content in months. I thought you stopped posting. I was like, no.
Interesting.
So I would say Instagram because once you’re following, you’re going to get it constantly as long as you’re engaging. Even if that’s just like a save or a like, it’ll pop up more often. I also have a free newsletter through Kit. You can get a weekly update. Yay! I love them. It’s so easy and I don’t know how to use, it’s funny.
Yeah.
yeah, I just signed up when you did that little collab thing.
I’m a millennial, but I really don’t know how to do anything on the computer. I’m very basic, so I have a weekly newsletter. And then that will be where I’m posting more about our Walk, Run, Jog Club that hopefully comes by summertime. That way you can get your merch or you can just show up. I’ll be doing different events in LA. I really want to, you know…
Yeah.
LA is so big and I think a lot of people think, well like you can just do it in one location. I’m like no, like we’ve got to do the South Bay, we have to do like a valley event.
Yeah, it is so big. I don’t think I…
I didn’t know. I don’t think I… I mean, I still feel like I’ve been here for almost five years, which is so wild to say out loud. And I stay in my bubble here. Like, I live in the South Bay and I stay here. And I think it’s because I also have kids. So I feel like driving far, it’s like I have to listen to them in the car yelling and screaming. So I’m like, we’re going…
right and left. going to Long Beach and we’re going to Santa Monica and that’s pretty as far as it goes. But yeah.
Yeah, my parents
never took us past downtown LA when we were when we were kids.
Yeah, I mean,
pretty much how far my kids have gone, but it’s okay. I still have never been to Pasadena. I need to go. It’s kind of wild. I haven’t been there yet.
Yeah, Pasadena was a whole new world to me.
I love walking and just manifesting with the big houses next to the Rose Bowl.
I haven’t gone to the Rose Bowl. There’s so much I still need to go do. But one foot in front. Actually, that reminds me, really, I love thrifting. So I really need to go to the Rose Bowl. Thrift or not thrift the Rose Bowl, like Sunday flea market flea market, right?
Yeah, what?
Yes, the rhodium. Have you ever gone to the rhodium here in the South Bay?
Is that the one in Gardena or something like that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to live there. We used to rent. Like before we have a house here now, that’s ours. But before we sold our Bay Area home, we lived in North Torrance. And it was really, really close to there. But I never have been. I’ve just driven by it.
Yeah, it’s like Gardinish, like, it’s like the Gardena Torn’s border.
you
Girl, always, I always give myself an $100 budget. I mean, my partner and I, we each get $100. It’s kind of like a flea market, but they also just sell things like very cheap, which I appreciate. I got a Lululemon bag for 35 bucks two weeks ago, last week. Yeah, and not like the belt bag, like an actual like bag bag.
Is it good? I need to go.
Really? I need to go! Okay, okay, I need to go, I need to go.
Yeah.
What?
Okay.
which I love. It’s not quite like a gym bag. It’s not that big, but it’s cute little bag. 35 bucks. So you get some stills there. Even if it’s technically not thrifted, it’s a lot cheaper than going to the mall.
Wow!
Yeah, like a little back, back, Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah, no, I love me a good deal. When I was doing my fashion blog, I hate it. So I realized I didn’t want to be a fashion blogger very quickly because I hated the consumption of it. I was like, I just got to buy new fucking clothes all the time. Like, I don’t even want to do this. So then I was like, I love thrifting. I should do thrifting. And then I got into like thrifting fashion stuff. Didn’t end up doing that, obviously, but I just love a good fucking steal. So anyways, y’all go.
Mm-hmm.
follow Jfit8 on Instagram and get on her newsletter. And thank you so much for being here. You’re amazing. Thank you for everything you do for the community, for the community that you’ve built. Thank you for spreading your knowledge and wisdom. you clearly have inspired me. And I’m only going to make more of your recipes because I’m still on the, I’m very much still in the journey. So I appreciate you.
Thanks
Thank you for having me, I’m so honored. I think if you ever tried a recipe, thank you for allowing me in your kitchen. That’s a big deal. Like lot of people like to downplay it. I’m like, no, that’s a big fucking deal. Especially with how expensive groceries are. You’ve decided like, I’m gonna give this girl’s recipe a chance and go out of my way to buy groceries for this girl’s recipe. So, thank you.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
I should make actually now that I’m thinking about I should make the same
thing because I right now I have ground beef in my Refrigerator and I have some potatoes that have not been used so I might be making that tonight again It was so so good. So anyways, I appreciate you go follow her. We’ll see you later
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you.
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